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El presente articulo : "Arizona : una respuesta equivocada" del Arzobispo Desmond Tutu , es una rapida e inicial traducion al castellano el dia de hoy del Editor, sobre la execrable ley anti-inmigrante de Arizona.

Las negritas son del Editor.

C. Gayoso

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Publicado en exclusivo para : The Community.com

27 abril 2010

Version original en ingles y comentarios en ingles :

http://thecommunity.com/blog/2010/04/28/arizona-the-wrong-answer/


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Abominaciones como el apartheid no comienzan con una poblacion total que derepente llega a ser inhumana. Comienzan aqui�. Comienzan con la generalizacion de caracteristicas no deseadas a traves de todo un segmento de una poblacion. Comienzan con tratar de resolver un problema al afirmar una fuerza superior sobre una poblacion. Comienzan con despojar personas de los derechos y la dignidad - como el derecho a la presuncion de inocencia mientras no se pruebe su culpabilidad - que disfrutan" (Desmond Tutu)



El Arzobispo Desmond Tutu : me entristece hoy ante la perspectiva de un joven inmigrante hispana en Arizona vaya a la ...

by ARCHBISHOP DESMOND TUTU por el Arzobispo Desmond Tutu

Me entristesco hoy ante la perspectiva que una joven inmigrante hispana en Arizona vaya a la tienda de comestibles y olvide traer su pasaporte y documentos de inmigracion con ella. No puedo ser imparcial ante el hecho de que por el acto mismo de su presencia en el supermercado, pronto este hecho sea tipificado com un crimen en el estado donde vive. O ante el hecho de que un policia al escuchar su acento tenga una "sospecha razonable" de que ella es una inmigrante ilegal, que puede - y � sera tomada en custodia hasta que alguien resuelva el caso, mientras sus hijos estan en casa esperando para la cena.


Igualmente inquietante es lo que sucedera en la mente del polici�a. La Policia habla hoy la sobre la forma en que no desea, y no deseara , participar en la asuncion de juicios basados en perfiles raciales. Sin embargo, ante la posibilidad de utilizar el sentido comun y la compasion, o acosar a una persona que no haya hecho nada malo, un aspecto particularmente siniestro de la nueva ley de inmigracion de Arizona se cierne sobre su cabeza. El puede ser demandado personalmente, por CUALQUIER persona, por no hacer cumplir este nuevo acto inhumano.


Reconozco que Arizona se ha convertido en un punto de acceso cada vez mayor para la inmigracion ilegal desde el sur. La ola ha traido consigo el aumento de la violencia y el trafico ili�cito de drogas.


Sin embargo, una solucion que degrada a la gente inocente, o que haga a cualquier persona sospechoso porque habla mal el ingles, no es una solucion. Una solucion que no distingue entre un nino de corta edad que cruzan la frontera en busca de su madre y un traficante de drogas no es una solución.


No estoy hablando desde una torre de marfil. Yo vivía en la Sudafrica que afortunadamente se ha desvanecido en la historia, donde podria ser un negro o una mujer arrestada en la calle y luego ser arrojados a la carcel por no tener, el o ella , sus documentos consigo.


¿Que tan lejos esto puede llevar ? Nosotros lo vivimos. Vivimos a la policia despertando a un hombre en medio de la noche y transportandolo a la carcel por no tener sus documentos con su persona mientras dormi�a. El hecho de que estaba en su mesita de noche, cerca de la cama no era suficiente.


Por supuesto, si usted sugerie tal posibilidad hoy a un policia de Arizona, insistira en que el nunca hari�a una cosa asi�. Y yo le creo. Arizona esta muy lejos de la Sudafrica del apartheid.


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El problema es que bajo la nueva ley, el uno o dos que lo HARIAN estarian legitimados. Todo lo que ellos tienen que decir es que ellos creian que los inmigrantes ilegales estaban albergados en la casa. Ellos estarian protegidos y sancionados por esta ley.


Abominaciones como el apartheid no comienzan con una poblacion total que derepente llega a ser inhumana. Comienzan aqui. Comienzan con la generalizacion de caracteristicas no deseadas a traves de todo un segmento de una poblacion. Comienzan con tratar de resolver un problema al afirmar una fuerza superior sobre una poblacion. Comienzan con despojar personas de los derechos y la dignidad - como el derecho a la presuncion de inocencia mientras no se pruebe su culpabilidad - que disfrutan. No porque es lo correcto, sino porque es posible. Y porque de alguna manera, se piensa que esto va a resolver un problema.


Sin embargo, cuando se desnuda a un hombre o una mujer de sus derechos humanos basicos, se los despoja de su dignidad a los ojos de su familia y su comunidad, e incluso ante sus propios ojos. Los inmigrantes que están acusados del delito de allanamiento, por el simple hecho de estar en una comunidad sin sus papeles con ellos, se le esta diciendo que esta cometiendo un delito por el simple hecho de estar alli. El o ella se sienten degradados y sienten que son de menos valor frente a los otros que tienen un color de piel diferente. Estas son las semillas del resentimiento, de las hostilidades y en los casos extremos, que generan los conflictos.


Estas "soluciones" no resuelven nada. Como ya se ha señalado, incluso para las gente en la fuerza policial, las nuevas leyes de Arizona dividiran a las comunidades y haran menos probable que la gente en las comunidades de inmigrantes trabajen con la polici�a. Se crearian condiciones favorables para una mayor criminalidad con las misma leyes que pretenden desarmarla.


Los latinos en Arizona no han llegado a Arizona porque quieren vivir en comunidades atormentada por la violencia y la delincuencia. Me imagino que los recien llegados han huido de sus pueblos de la frontera y de la creciente violencia de sus pueblos donde los senores de la droga han reforzado su control . Ellos quieren vivir y criar a sus hijos en paz, igual que tu o yo.


class="buttons square13 zippy-plus" v:shapes="_x0000_i1027"> Estoy seguro de que, dada la oportunidad, los lideres de las comunidades de inmigrantes latinos en Arizona con entusiasmo trabajarian con el Estado para encontrar soluciones constructivas a estos problemas. Estoy muy seguro que les gustaría, tanto como a los demas, librar de Arizona de los contrabandistas de drogas, traficantes de seres humanos y otros elementos criminales que se infiltran en sus comunidades.

Sólo podemos esperar que esta ley sea expulsada de los tribunales en el corto plazo. No estoy en desacuerdo con los llamamientos a boicotear los negocios en el estado de Arizona hasta que esta situacion cambie.

En el i�nterin, se ha abierto la puerta para que algunos inteligentes lideres estatales se sienten a conversar con los li�deres de la comunidad latina en Arizona y trabajen algunas soluciones que realmente funcionen. Esperemos que estas soluciones reconozcan la diferencia entre un traficante de drogas y un hombre que esta dispuesto a estar parado fuera de una estacion de gasolina, en el calor del sol durante horas, con la esperanza de que alguien le de algo de trabajo para el di�a.


El problema de la migracion de la poblacion no va a desaparecer en el corto plazo. Si alguien debe saber de esto, son los americanos, muchos de los cuales desembarcaron aqui� para escapar de la persecucion, el hambre o el conflicto. Con los ojos del mundo ahora en ellos, Arizona tiene la oportunidad de crear un nuevo modelo para hacer frente a las trampas, y ayudar a la nacion como un todo ha encontrar su camino a traves de los problemas de la inmigracion ilegal. Pero en relacion el trabajo, debe ser un modelo que este basado en un profundo respeto por los derechos humanos esenciales propios que los americanos han crecido disfrutando.


VERSION EN INGLES :

by ARCHBISHOP DESMOND TUTU I am saddened today at the prospect of a young Hispanic immigrant in Arizona going to the ...

by ARCHBISHOP DESMOND TUTU

I am saddened today at the prospect of a young Hispanic immigrant in Arizona going to the grocery store and forgetting to bring her passport and immigration documents with her. I cannot be dispassionate about the fact that the very act of her being in the grocery store will soon be a crime in the state she lives in. Or that should a policeman hear her accent and form a "reasonable suspicion" that she is an illegal immigrant, she can – and will – be taken into custody until someone sorts it out, while her children are at home waiting for their dinner.

Equally disturbing is what will happen in the mind of the policeman. The police talk today about how they do not wish to, and will not, engage in racial profiling. Yet faced with the option of using common sense and compassion, or harassing a person who has done nothing wrong, a particularly sinister aspect of Arizona's new immigration law will be hanging over his head. He can be personally sued, by ANYONE, for failing to enforce this inhumane new act.

I recognize that Arizona has become a widening entry point for illegal immigration from the South. The wave has brought with it rising violence and drug smuggling.

But a solution that degrades innocent people, or that makes anyone with broken English a suspect, is not a solution. A solution that fails to distinguish between a young child coming over the border in search of his mother and a drug smuggler is not a solution.

I am not speaking from an ivory tower. I lived in the South Africa that has now thankfully faded into history, where a black man or woman could be grabbed off the street and thrown in jail for not having his or her documents on their person.

How far can this go? We lived it -- police waking a man up in the middle of the night and hauling him off to jail for not having his documents on his person while he slept. The fact that they were in his nightstand near the bed was not good enough.

Of course if you suggested such a possibility today to an Arizona policeman he would be adamant that he would never do such a thing. And I would believe him. Arizona is a long way from apartheid South Africa.

The problem is, under the new law, the one or two who WOULD do it are legitimized. All they have to say is that they believed that illegal immigrants were being harbored in the house. They would be protected and sanctioned by this law.

Abominations such as Apartheid do not start with an entire population suddenly becoming inhumane. They start here. They start with generalizing unwanted characteristics across an entire segment of a population. They start with trying to solve a problem by asserting superior force over a population. They start with stripping people of rights and dignity – such as the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty – that you yourself enjoy. Not because it is right, but because you can. And because somehow, you think this is going to solve a problem.

However, when you strip a man or a woman of their basic human rights, you strip them of their dignity in the eyes of their family and their community, and even in their own eyes. An immigrant who is charged with the crime of trespassing for simply being in a community without his papers on him is being told he is committing a crime by simply being. He or she feels degraded and feels they are of less worth than others of a different color skin. These are the seeds of resentment, hostilities and in extreme cases, conflict.

Such "solutions" solve nothing. As already pointed out, even by people on the police force, Arizona's new laws will split the communities, make it less likely that people in the immigrant communities will work with the police. They will create conditions favorable to the very criminals these laws are trying to disarm.

The Latinos in Arizona have not come to Arizona because they want to live in communities wracked with violence and crime. I would guess that the most recent arrivals have fled their border towns and the growing violence there as drug lords tightened their control of the communities. They want to live and raise their children in peace, just as you or I do.

I am certain that, given the chance, the leaders of the Latino immigrant communities in Arizona would enthusiastically work with the State to find constructive solutions to these problems. I am very sure that they would like, as much as others, to rid Arizona of the drug smugglers, human traffickers and other criminal elements infiltrating their communities.

We can only hope that this law will be thrown out of the courts in short order. I do not disagree with the calls to boycott the businesses in the State until it is turned around.

In the meantime, it has opened the door to some smart State leaders sitting down with the leaders of the Latino communities in Arizona and hammering out some solutions that actually work. Hopefully these solutions would recognize the difference between a drug smuggler and a man willing to stand outside a gas station in the hot sun for hours in the hopes that someone will give him some work for the day.

The problem of migrating populations is not going to go away any time soon. If anyone should know this, it should be Americans, many of whom landed here themselves to escape persecution, famine or conflict. With the eyes of the world now on them, Arizona has the opportunity to create a new model for dealing with the pitfalls, and help the nation as a whole find its way through the problems of illegal immigration. But to work, it must be a model that is based on a deep respect for the essential human rights Americans themselves have grown up enjoying.


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14 Comments, Comment or Ping

1. kj190

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I have to say that I am very disappointed in this article, and the tone that it takes. Archbishop Tutu states "I cannot be dispassionate about the fact that the very act of her being in the grocery store will soon be a crime in the state she lives in" - something that is completely untrue, assuming she is a legal immigrant. He later states: " An immigrant who is charged with the crime of trespassing for simply being in a community without his papers on him is being told he is committing a crime by simply being." Again - completely untrue - no immigrant would be charged with any crime, provided that the immigrant can provide proof of their right to be there.

When I lived in England, a young girl was assaulted in the lobby of my building. When the police canvassed the occupants of the building for information, and came across me (an American), they immediately asked for papers proving my right to be in the country - but they asked no one else in the building for their proof of residence. They made the decision to check into my background purely on the basis of my accent. If I had not been able to offer them my papers, I would have been detained until I could. And this was not a one-off situation - I travelled extensively for my company in the UK. Whenever I checked into a hotel with my business associates, I was the only one who was singled out to present my passport to get a room. If I did not provide it, a room would not be available to me - even though I was a legal resient of the UK at the time. Can I expect Archbishop Tutu to be calling for a boycott of UK businesses? Or possibly he could acknowledge that any government has the right to impose rules for legal immigration, and that individuals who choose to live under those governments legally will sometimes have to accept inconveniences like proving their immigration status.

28 Apr

2. brushy

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Whether someone is a drug dealer or illegally in our country, they are both breaking the law. It is call illegal immegrants becasuse they are illegal. Drivers have to have drivers licenses. What an inconcienience to have to carry them. The difference is???

28 Apr

3. contrarian

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One of poorest, illogical conclusions I've read yet on this debate. Fails to consider the destruction illegals have done to Arizona, the crime, kidnappings, drugs, killings of law enforcement, and more. What part of ILLEGAL don't we understand? All of these protests are carefully orchestrated and too many flatworms are falling for the hoaz.
Instead of wasting time on inflammatory actions, why aren't they working to make these folks legal citizens instead?
Why should anyone be granted immunity when a process exists for rectifying the situation...the CA governor didn't come to America illegally so how dare he call the legal actions of AZ immoral?

Mexico has laws about illegals that are much, much worse but I don't hear anyone whining about them. Illegals are good for the Mexican government because American taxpayers foot the bill for medical care, food stamps, schooling and so forth, thus relieving the government of Mexico of caring for their own population...after all "Everything is free in America," and despite the majority who favor the new AZ law, we're damned for it.

28 Apr

4. anthonyrhodes

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I would have to say that I found this article to be very inspiring and true. Time and time again I have watched legislatures create and pass laws that are meant to solve an issue with out ever considering all sides of the issue. How do people expect to solve issues and strengthen our communities if they aren't willing to listen to each other and work together to find solutions.

Have you ever thought about what you would have to be going through to want to pick up your family leave most of your material positions behind and move to a completely different country?

I would have to feel very oppressed and believe that there was no other way for me to survive and obtain a better way of live than to leave my home uproot my family break the law and than live in constant fear of being sent back to my home in worse shape than I was to begin with.

It is so disheartening to me to see governments in our very own country institute such deliberate acts of racism!!! The state of Arizona has just made it institutionally okay to judge people by the color of their skin or by the sound of their voice or even just by a police officers opinion!!

As far as those who believe that illegal immigrants (only for the lack of a better term!!!) are the cause of increasing violence in communities I would like to see the creditable statistics on that, I have yet to see any real research that proves the true cause of rising violence is because of the fact that they are illegal immigrants. Couldn't it be because we allow companies to pay them less than a living wage so they live in areas were crime is more likely to happen? Is it because we like getting our oranges for less than a dollar a pound and there for they aren't able to fee their families and have to find other ways to get food?

I cant begin to understand how people can believe that any human being naturally resorts to violence. That theory goes against every root of human logic. Don't we all want to live in a secure environment were we can flourish and grow? Living in a violent environment denies the human being of that security and they will take drastic measures if they have to as a way to find security. Wouldn't as Archbishop TuTu has mentioned above we be getting a better return on our investment if we got to the root of the problem and started to create better ways for these "illegal immigrants" to come here the right way and have access to a secure community and living environment?


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